I said in all do respect trying to be helpful but underscoring the fact that you have to know what you are doing before you go out on lake Erie. I thought I was a good boater and safe at one time. And I was a capable boat operator. I am now a Master Captain and can tell you that the average boater does not know ****. There again I put myself in that group of don't know **** before that horrible download of schooling I took. Wish everyone well and I am willing to answer any questions you may have. Fish on!