Catch & Release

[Madd Matt]

Under no circumstances have captains classes had anything to do with fishing and fishing laws. Captains classes are about boating, navigation and safety of paying passengers on a vessel whether inspected or non-inspected. Setting the record straight.

I have never been to a captains class, and I believe you that it has to do with navigation and not fishing laws.

However, what I said is that I have talked to 3 captains that have all said that a discussion on culling was had at their class. As to it being part of the curriculum, I don't know. Maybe they all had the same instructor and maybe a couple of them where in class together. All of them are members of this forum and I am not going to name any names.

My point of the post was not to infer that it was "taught" in the curriculum as a fact. My point was that I had a discussion with a group of captains who said that it was a discussion in their class.. maybe it was over cigarettes outside... I don't know. I apologize for mentioning the class.

In the discussion they all seemed to agree that if the fish where alive, then there didn't seem to be a law against it. They all agreed that you can't throw a dead fish back, and they all agreed that with walleye unless you have a good live well then almost any fish that is in the cooler for even minutes has a small chance of survival.

Secondly. Regardless of that discussion taking place, it does not establish the law. If fishing regs are not part of the curriculum then it would appear to be either an instructors opinion or a common discussion between captains. Either way, that doesn't make it the law.

I don't cull... So I don't care. However, I am curious as to the actual legality of it. I used the fact that the captains had told me that they believe it to be allowed (none of them agreed that it was a good practice and none of them where promoting it nor doing it) as enough to peak my curiosity.

-Matt

[Knute]

Hey Fella's. Thought I better check in. First thing, I want to thank everyone for their reply's & thoughts on my post !!! 2nd. I would like to tell you a little about myself. I am a local resident of Port Clinton, Walleye Capital of the world, and don't forget that !!! I have been fishing Lake Erie for sum 50 Yrs.
I have fished the good years and the bad. I have worked on the head boats, and the sport boats choosing to fish for fun, not the money. I do consider myself a good fisherman and outdoorsman. I believe most people who know me would agree. I am a new member to your forum but have followed on this site for awhile, also a member on Ice Shanty & OGF.
The reason for my post was to hopefully find out what happens to these fish that are being caught and released. Does it put undo-stress on a pre spawn fish ? Spawning starts in 45 days. Does handling, wiping the protective slime off, cause any harm ? I have over the years caught a lot of walleye that have what I call tumors or cyst, could this have anything to do with this ? If we have a biologist on board this forum, I wish he'd put his 2 cents in on this.
This is the information I am looking for. Not to interested in catching sheepshead , after my limit !!! If anyone would like to join our round table discussion at our local watering hole come join us. Bell Mell Tavern in PC. Dang good pizza & spirits !!!
Again Thanks to All !!!
Knute

[MasterKraft]

I have always been told them tumor like sores are injuries from the spawn. This is by no means coming from any facts, just what I have heard over the years. Whats your beef with sheephead? Lol

[Afishhawk]

I thought one of the you tube videos had a guy from Wisconsin out on Erie with Capt. Mike and he said they were "cold water warts". I have no idea as to the validity of his statement. I have seen them in the spring but only fish the jig bite.

[Jvgoofy]

a link to a little info on cold water warts
called "Lymphocystis"


http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7...6964--,00.html

[wakina]

Hey Fella's. Thought I better check in. First thing, I want to thank everyone for their reply's & thoughts on my post !!! 2nd. I would like to tell you a little about myself. I am a local resident of Port Clinton, Walleye Capital of the world, and don't forget that !!! I have been fishing Lake Erie for sum 50 Yrs.
I have fished post good years and the bad. I have worked on the head boats, and the sport boats choosing to fish for fun, not the money. I do consider myself a good fisherman and outdoorsman. I believe most people who know me would agree. I am a new member to your forum but have followed on this site for awhile, also a member on Ice Shanty & OGF.
The reason for my post was to hopefully find out what happens to these fish that are being caught and released. Does it put undo-stress on a pre spawn fish ? Spawning starts in 45 days. Does handling, wiping the protective slime off, cause any harm ? I have over the years caught a lot of walleye that have what I call tumors or cyst, could this have anything to do with this ? If we have a biologist on board this forum, I wish he'd put his 2 cents in on this.
This is the information I am looking for. Not to interested in catching sheepshead , after my limit !!! If anyone would like to join our round table discussion at our local watering holye come join us. Bell Mell Tavern in PC. Dang good pizza & spirits !!!
Again Thanks to All !!!
Knute

I can't find anything wrong with your watering hole, drank more than a few cold ones there myself. Is it still in the same building or have they renovated it?

In all honesty it would probably have been a better start for you on this forum had you brought those questions to our attention right from the beginning. That way we would know you weren't just trolling the members and was looking for answers to questions you had not asked. I am not being critical, just truthful.

The answers to your questions would be more readily available at the Ohio Sea Grant web site under sub forum Lake Erie Hot Topics. Like this site it is free to join and it is staffed with people that are educated in the fields your questions fall in. I would post a link but am not at home and find it to difficult to do so on my phone. Just join and post all of your concerns in the same format that you used on this site.

With all that having been said Welcome Aboard!

[Knute]

Thanks Wakina ! The water hole is in the same place. They have been renovating the last year and just finished, very nice !!!

[Madd Matt]

I always thought that some of those are from lampreys... That was just an assumption that I've had, no reason other than sometimes when you catch a fish with a lamprey attached to it they definitely bleed and there is a sore there.

[Bggeary]

I always thought it was from the spring river runs. So many foul hooked, then tear free or you land them and release them. I have always smashed the barb on my jigs when river fishing, I think it does less harm to the fish and is way easier to back out. Just a guess.

[Windyeyes]

Seems like an Dnr officer told me they were old snag wounds from the spring when they are so thick up on reefs and shallows.