While on this topic I must also say something on perch. I always see from the same people jumbos jumbos jumbos.... not we have a good grade of fish being 8s 9s and 10s. Let's be realistic your not going out around kelleys or anywhere in the western basin for that matter and getting 6 and 8 man limits of jumbos. Your getting a decent grade with some jumbos mixed in. Don't get me wrong I've fished Huron and vermilion a lot for perch and you can get a lot of jumbos but a whole limit? ? Not happening very often let alone every trip. The "person people" that report like this know who are. Be very aware of "the jumbo perch report"