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04-01-2014, 02:02 PM #1
If the worm burner/worm harness is to heavy in the rear the spoon will not react and flutter the way they should. They just plow along in the water and flutter every now and then, that has been my experience anyhow. I feel mono, braid(Fireline Crystal) or floro works the best on them if they are home made, the wire seems to be to stiff and I feel it limits the spoons movements. I also use 2 number 2 hooks instead of the treble set up. The closer to the spoon that first hook is the better and it will increase your hookup rate.
Last edited by wakina; 04-01-2014 at 02:21 PM.
Wakina
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04-02-2014, 03:58 AM #2
Besides what Wakina states, the ones I run actually work best at slower speeds from .8 to 1.5 when using crawlers. And most fish come on the front hook.
I can only hope I have earned the freedom that has been given me.
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04-02-2014, 06:10 AM #3
I started tying up spoon harnesses last year after a few pointers from ebijack. did pretty well on them. As a rule when it got to worm season I would try to run 2-3 out of my spread with them and the balance in regular harnesses and scorpion spoons. I had no problem catching fish on them from 1.8-2.5 mph. I used 17# vicious last year, but broke off a couple hooks in the net, so I switched up to 20# seagar this year.
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04-02-2014, 12:07 PM #4
WHAT'S UP!- Just the stuff I whated to hear.I use 20 # vanish floro. Q about the beads? Do this add weight? One thing is clear' whoever thought this up is smart I love using spoons and harness have always worked good. The two should be even better
one more Q how long a leader, and how far apart are the hooks 2" or 2.5"? Good fishing to all !
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04-02-2014, 01:21 PM #5
I tie my hooks closer together on the spoon harness but others tie them further apart like regular harness. I use a 60" leader and change them the same as I would just a spoon. My harnesses are different than what you usually see also and they interchange without having to remove my leader. My harnesses are built on hard wire with a short Snell like the spoon harness and are virtually indestuctable by walleyes and sheep head. I don't have to worry about the clevis weakening my Snell leader either. I no longer have all those 60 inch harnesses to contend with but can keep 60 to 80 harnesses in a couple of plano flip sider storage boxes. I keep a dozen or so leaders tied ahead and stored on a leader keeper tube. I also run all three types of lures(spoons, spoon harness and worm harnesses) in the same spread without issues and catch my fair share of fish. I pull all three behind tru-trip 40 or jet 40 divers but I preferred the tru-trips. I will add that I very seldom use Colorado blades anymore but rely mostly on hatchet blades. They work well and you can pull them at spoon speeds if you use a over sized clevis and a quality ball bearing swivel on your leader. I prefer stainless swivels to the regular ones only because the don't corrode like the others do.
Wakina
23 foot Pro Line
HDS 5X Sonar
HDS 5M GPS
Navonics chip, model #DMSD/649P+
Platinum Plus Lake Erie and Lake St Clair Marine.
Raymarine Dragonfly7 Sonar-Downvision-GPS combo with chirp technology.
Navonics Hotmaps Premium East chip
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04-02-2014, 01:26 PM #6
I have been using those med. size with keeper plasic clevises from Jannscraft, but have been thinking about trying those Dutch fork no loss style or s.s. quick clevises for the hatchets. Is that what you wakina?
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04-02-2014, 01:42 PM #7
I lost to many blades on just about all of those quick change clevis so I switched to the folded and stirrup type. They both wore the Snell and I lost a few from broken shells(my fault) so I now make them on hard wire and use the stirrup clevis. Have not lost a blade since and I can change the entire harness assembly quicker than most can change just the blade. He wire former has paid for itself in blade cost alone. I can whip out about 15 an hour but I still have to tie the shells afterward to complete the harness. I only attach the shells as need while on the water. I do have several complete ones ready so I can keep lines fishing while I change out the Snell. I will try to get a picture up as soon as possible so you can see what I am doing.
Wakina
23 foot Pro Line
HDS 5X Sonar
HDS 5M GPS
Navonics chip, model #DMSD/649P+
Platinum Plus Lake Erie and Lake St Clair Marine.
Raymarine Dragonfly7 Sonar-Downvision-GPS combo with chirp technology.
Navonics Hotmaps Premium East chip
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