Don't be stupid

[POPEYE]

I was told in my CCW class that the first words out of your mouth are that you have a CCP and if you are carrying or not ,if so the locatation of the weapon .

[freddie]

Alright guys, we've got to clear up some of this misinformation.

You have to inform/notify, IF AND ONLY IF YOU ARE ARMED. Period

There is a TON of misinformation out there, even instructors and police that are armed and insist that you must notify if you have your license, armed or not. That is INCORRECT. Hell, I've had that argument with a cop when I was unarmed. I did not notify, and he tried to write me a ticket for it until I referenced the Ohio Revised Code.

Here's my proof that in Ohio, you do not have to notify unless you are armed.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.12

(B) No person who has been issued a concealed handgun license shall do any of the following:
(1) If the person is stopped for a law enforcement purpose and is carrying a concealed handgun, fail to promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the person after the person has been stopped that the person has been issued a concealed handgun license and that the person then is carrying a concealed handgun;

I'm not saying that its a bad idea to say "Hey I have my CHL, but I'm not armed". But, that isn't required by law!

Mr Ed, I'm glad you were fortunate. I hear way too many stories of people who fail to inform because they didn't know the law, or forgot that they were armed, which seems ridiculous to me.

[ReelTime]

Alright guys, we've got to clear up some of this misinformation.

You have to inform/notify, IF AND ONLY IF YOU ARE ARMED. Period

There is a TON of misinformation out there, even instructors and police that are armed and insist that you must notify if you have your license, armed or not. That is INCORRECT. Hell, I've had that argument with a cop when I was unarmed. I did not notify, and he tried to write me a ticket for it until I referenced the Ohio Revised Code.

Here's my proof that in Ohio, you do not have to notify unless you are armed.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.12


I'm not saying that its a bad idea to say "Hey I have my CHL, but I'm not armed". But, that isn't required by law!
Mr Ed, I'm glad you were fortunate. I hear way too many stories of people who fail to inform because they didn't know the law, or forgot that they were armed, which seems ridiculous to me.

Freddie you beat me to it. So glad you posted this. Amazed at the number of instructers and LEO that don't know the law.

[Hoss928]

That's good information. It's amazing that an instructor can misinform on something like that.

[freddie]

You're right, but at the same time, there are TONS of cops that don't know the laws either.

Ultimately, its our responsibility as license holders to study the law and be knowledgeable.

[airshot]

Has anyone ever heard of "intent of the law" ask a lawyer... this is what the judge said that came into our class. The intent of the law is that ccw holders inform officers of their permits. You will probably not go to jail for this but you could very well have a fight on your hands is the point the judge was trying to make. Anyone wants to test the court system in an attempt to prove himself correct, be my guest. The "intent" of the law is still there and is used almost daily in court cases. The law does not specifically state that you do not have to inform if not carrying so then it becomes intent.
And yes I do take my ccw license very seriously and constantly read and keep updated on any changes. And yes I know the laws "very well". I also know what the term 'intent of the law" means, just look at the number of persons serving time for failure to obey the "intent of the law" and you will see many do not know what that means.

Airshot

[ReelTime]

My last comment...
The intent of the law (as it is written) is so that the LEO knows ahead of time when he is dealing with someone that is armed...not someone that has a CCW.

[waterdog]

I carry mace~!
Sabre Defense Spray.
You just never know when one of those walleye will attack you with those nasty big teeth, so I am prepared!

[wakina]

I carry mace~!
Sabre Defense Spray.
You just never know when one of those walleye will attack you with those nasty big teeth, so I am prepared!

LOL~This time of the year it is not their teeth that I am worried about, the boy eyes have a much nastier weapon at their disposal, and they use it with reckless abandon almost like they have no control over it.

[freddie]

My last comment...
The intent of the law (as it is written) is so that the LEO knows ahead of time when he is dealing with someone that is armed...not someone that has a CCW.

Exactly. The intent of the notification law is that an officer knows when you are armed.

For the final time, there is NO requirement to notify when unarmed. None at all. I have posted the Ohio Revised Code section explaining this, so why are we still arguing it? I've already cited Ohio law as my reference lol

If you still insist there is, Airshot, I challenge you to post that section of the ORC that details Failure to Notify while unarmed. Heck, even post a link to where somebody got ticketed for "intent of the law" as you say, for Failure to Notify while unarmed.

I think you're just a little confused on this, or that misinformed judge got you too. Check out OhioCCWForums.org , and ask the guys there. That is Ohio's absolute best firearms forum.

ANYWHO, back to fishin!!!