Thanks Capt Mike. Being new to fishing Lake Erie, most the time I have my map out trying to figure out where you all are talking about. When you guys use nicknames and such, Im totally lost, lol. We saw tons of boats a few miles out past the 3rd bouy of the Raisin River, possibly in Ohio Waters. We had to come in early because I had some complications from outpatient surgery I had yesterday and made an ER run, then a Cabelas run. Bought a trolling plate because we just cant seem to troll down enough and the hubs hates drifting.