I don't get to come to the lake very often, between the winds and only getting one day off a week. Nonetheless, I went out of Lorain June 6th and caught a 3 man limit by noon of nice eaters. We started out trolling (my least favorite), to find the fish and once we did, casted a single hook with a blade and a few beads with a nice night crawler. I know that is a bit East but the fish were there and didn't have to go very far out. Found our fish in 40-50 feet of water and seriously didn't travel 2-3 miles. We launched out of Hot Water boat ramp and it public. Hope that helps.