Glad you like em, I run them on one side of the boat while running harnesses on the other and let the fish tell me what they want. So far the fish prefer the spoon harness. Typically I run them from .8 to 1.2 as that has produced the best. I have not run them over 1.9 mph as I have not had to. If I want to run spoons over 2 mph I just run spoons. I have not run these without meat, but would probably work with the added color flash of the beeds.