I have not been out yet Floyd. My brothers battle with cancer came to head early this month and he passed last wknd. I can focus now and have off from the 28th thru 11/17. I take this time every yr and chomping at the bit a little. I hear ya you on the mzzldr, I use my smokeless all the time. Good Luck to you and all!

PS: Bass Pro accepted my return of the Elite 7 and upgraded to HDS 7