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06-11-2013, 07:49 AM
copo427ss

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Originally Posted by lineman49

Copo, PM was sent. U get it?

Pm sent. Sorry. Band practice last night.
06-11-2013, 09:33 AM
Fishtician

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Originally Posted by copo427ss

That thought crossed my mind as well. But I have caught plenty of big cats and they fight especially when you get them off the bottom. Plus its just about spawning season for cats. They should be up in shallower water and creek mouths this time of year. Reason I thought Muskie is because big ones will hit a bait like that trolling and just be dead weight, like they don't even know they're hooked and go along for the ride til they get near the boat. My grandfather once thought he had snagged a railroad tie til he saw it had fins and it saw the boat and was gone. This hit. Then was dead heavy weight. Drag going. Til it got near the boat. 2 powerful head shakes and gone. My big eye I got that morning was pretty much the same. Hit was good weight and didnt start pullin til she was near the boat.

I was in the area on Saturday, and landed a 20 Lb. cat. Also lost 1 there on Friday. I was counting money, reeling him up. LOL
06-11-2013, 09:48 AM
captainjoe

We had a BIG channel cat on Sunday also. Off Myers in front of 18 mile creek. When we threw it back - ker plunk. You know that sound that you hear when you throw something heavy into deep water. It fought good but it was barely hooked.

We need some good weather!
06-11-2013, 10:25 AM
brador7

Bottom Bouncers

Anyone have a preference size of leader from the bottom bouncer to the worm harness? Preferred weights?

Thanks
06-11-2013, 12:07 PM
glassyeyes

Personally i use anywhere between 3/4 -2 1/2 ounce weight depending on wind, also depending on type of blade and where the walleye are relating to the bottom is the length of my leader anywhere from a ft. to 5ft. I have alot better luck with smaller blades while bouncing.

you may get better advice from some of the other guys though, i have learned a lot from them just reading through old stuff... some good guys on here who know what they are talking about.
06-11-2013, 12:45 PM
lineman49

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Originally Posted by brador7

Anyone have a preference size of leader from the bottom bouncer to the worm harness? Preferred weights?

Thanks

I use 2.5 -3 oz bouncers & a18" - 4' leader mostly single blades with a 4 -5 size colrado blades. & troll .8 -1.5 mph & stay in contact with the bottom.
06-11-2013, 01:34 PM
copo427ss

Well it's sounding like had a big cat on then. What depth were you guys getting cats at?
06-11-2013, 04:20 PM
captainjoe

We picked up the cat between Myers and 18 mile creek. More towards the creek mouth. In about 34 ft of water. The water was dirty. Just what the cats like. Although we did pick up a few walleye in the same location and depth. ??
06-11-2013, 04:40 PM
milt

I caught a big cat last year I thought it was snag I weighed it 20lbs what a fight
06-12-2013, 04:42 AM
captainjoe

Out on the water now - Dunkirk. Very foggy. Just started.
06-12-2013, 04:58 AM
Workinman

Good Luck!
06-12-2013, 07:51 AM
lineman49

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Originally Posted by captainjoe

Out on the water now - Dunkirk. Very foggy. Just started.

Let us know how you make out, please.
06-12-2013, 08:44 AM
captainjoe

So far 0, nodda, zilch
06-12-2013, 11:02 AM
lineman49

Talked to a friend in front of the windmills this AM . He got 4 rite off the bat then they shut off around 9:30. All 20" -22".
This guy got his 6 was done at 11:45. He had a good day!
06-12-2013, 04:14 PM
captainjoe

Ended up for 0 for the day:mad: Very disappointing. Didn't graph much. Didn't hear of anyone catching anything on the radio. ???
06-12-2013, 08:03 PM
glassyeyes

I went out all day today caught 1 26 inch, long day!!
06-12-2013, 08:13 PM
lineman49

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Originally Posted by glassyeyes

I went out all day today caught 1 26 inch, long day!!

Where did you fish?
06-12-2013, 08:34 PM
glassyeyes

I went out of SP water was muddy fish I caught was suspended 40 down over 60
06-12-2013, 08:43 PM
lineman49

Better luck next time. Hang in there.
06-12-2013, 08:49 PM
glassyeyes

Always tomorrow took the rest of the week off a few sheepshead and a walleye definitely beats the office!
06-12-2013, 09:12 PM
fishkiller16

Fishon51, his buddy Don, Capt. Jim Steel, and I fished from 7:30 am until 12:00 pm ( I had to work the Weigh Station at SP.) We boxed 6 and had 1 weigher. We fished in the mud off 18 mile, the fish started to turn on at 10:30 for us. My uncle fished the same area and ended up with 22 total with 2 weighers.
06-13-2013, 07:43 AM
lineman49

Do the fish get wetter when it rains?? :confused:
06-13-2013, 08:15 AM
captainjoe

I'm sure glad I took the week off to fish. :( Bailey is the smart one - he found out that I was off this week for the tournament and he decided to work. He figured correctly on the weather. It must be me.:confused:
The only thing that is good is that the lake is filling up.:)
I don't think the fish get wetter. They probably go on a feeding frenzy because there are not many hooks in the water with jerks on the other end trying to catch them.
06-13-2013, 08:36 AM
lineman49

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Originally Posted by fishkiller16

Fishon51, his buddy Don, Capt. Jim Steel, and I fished from 7:30 am until 12:00 pm ( I had to work the Weigh Station at SP.) We boxed 6 and had 1 weigher. We fished in the mud off 18 mile, the fish started to turn on at 10:30 for us. My uncle fished the same area and ended up with 22 total with 2 weighers.

Are you guys using harnesses, stick baits or spoons? Just wondering . Whatever it is, it seems to be working! Keep it going.
06-13-2013, 09:57 AM
joes spot

slow go for us last nite 2 at the old hole/ made a move late picked up 3 fast ones at new spot
06-13-2013, 11:23 AM
fishkiller16

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Originally Posted by lineman49

Are you guys using harnesses, stick baits or spoons? Just wondering . Whatever it is, it seems to be working! Keep it going.

All on meat, all colors worked.
06-13-2013, 01:32 PM
copo427ss

All colors worked for us too. But noticed bigger fish came from copper/watermelon and a rainbow
06-13-2013, 02:34 PM
Goldie

Are you guys marking fish or are they too high? I have nothing going on the CDN side and I was thinking even though I'm pulling some stuff up high maybe I need to go even higher? I realize many of you are jigging and bottom bouncing and catching those fish. But I am struggling to put anything together for suspended fish working from Point Abino to the line. Any help would be appreciated.
06-13-2013, 05:38 PM
lineman49

We are getting all on meat also.(20" -24") Copper blades, blue with white dots.
06-13-2013, 05:53 PM
copo427ss

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Originally Posted by Goldie

Are you guys marking fish or are they too high? I have nothing going on the CDN side and I was thinking even though I'm pulling some stuff up high maybe I need to go even higher? I realize many of you are jigging and bottom bouncing and catching those fish. But I am struggling to put anything together for suspended fish working from Point Abino to the line. Any help would be appreciated.

We are trolling. Lead core. Dipsys, riggers, jet divers, torpedoes and boards. We were marking some fish towards the bottom. 30-37fow Sunday. Also noticed some single and triple big arches from 15-18 fow. Not sure what they were. We were catching eyes closer towards the bottom so I didn't set up high. But the higher arches were numerous.
06-13-2013, 05:57 PM
copo427ss

Yeah yeah I forgot to mention this Sunday when I posted. But my 3d blades were all flaking color off. Brand new just purchased blades came up with no paint left on them at all. Just a nickel blade. We had to go by bead color to remember what color the blades were. Strange. I've never had that problem from a 3d harness before
06-13-2013, 06:45 PM
Goldie

Ok thanks for the advice. I haven't put a rigger or a dipsy down yet. Been trying to hook up on the lighter gear with in line weights, husky jerks, small jets and stuff. This is my second year out of my current boat and it's rigged with a kicker and a troll master so i might be crawling too slowly just because I can. It could be time to start moving a bit quicker and covering more water. I used to only be able to get as slow as 2.4 SOG and always caught fish, and now I can basically go as slow as I want but I might be in dead water too long. Thanks again, I'll change up some gear for the next trip.
06-13-2013, 07:39 PM
copo427ss

Speeds are 1.8-2.3. Hell their were guys passing me trolling that were constantly hooking fish
06-14-2013, 08:27 AM
FISHNCARS

I finally caught my first walleye on Wednesday night. I just got my boat and I'm still learning. I was fishing early evening behind the windmills 30-38 FOW. I was running a double blade harness with #5 Colorado blades, chartreuse red eyes. I had this rigged to a 8' leader off a 3 oz. bottom bouncer. Trolling 0.8-1.5 with 120 ft. of line out.

Can anyone spot an error to my technique?
I have been fishing there for 3-4 weeks, and just got my first.
I have been using single #3 blades, and just switched it up, and it worked.
I thought 2x #5 would be way too much.

Any questions or comments would be appreciated!!!
Thanks
:)
06-14-2013, 08:39 AM
overthelimit

I would shorten up your leader length to the bottom bouncer. Way to long in my opinion. Try half that.
06-14-2013, 11:00 AM
FISHNCARS

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Originally Posted by overthelimit

I would shorten up your leader length to the bottom bouncer. Way to long in my opinion. Try half that.

Well at my speed, weight of bottom bouncer, and turbulence of the harness, I was creating about a 20* angle from the pole to the water. With 120' of line I should be about 41' down from tip of the pole to the lure.
So if the tip is 6' above water, this should put the lure at about 35 FOW.

Is this not correct?
My initial drop of line is about 45' to the bottom, then it drifts up again, I drop it to about 65, drifts up again, then about 85, and so on till about 120.
06-14-2013, 11:19 AM
milt

I had 65-75 feet of line out in the same fow I was taping bottom I use 30lb fireline tolling the same speed
06-14-2013, 02:44 PM
brador7

Quote:

Originally Posted by glassyeyes

Personally i use anywhere between 3/4 -2 1/2 ounce weight depending on wind, also depending on type of blade and where the walleye are relating to the bottom is the length of my leader anywhere from a ft. to 5ft. I have alot better luck with smaller blades while bouncing.

you may get better advice from some of the other guys though, i have learned a lot from them just reading through old stuff... some good guys on here who know what they are talking about.

Lineman and Glassyeyes ... Thanks for the Info!! ... Worked out nice on Wed Night.... Couple of eaters off the WIndmills with about a 4ft lead .. Trying again tonight
06-14-2013, 05:10 PM
copo427ss

Quote:

Originally Posted by FISHNCARS

Well at my speed, weight of bottom bouncer, and turbulence of the harness, I was creating about a 20* angle from the pole to the water. With 120' of line I should be about 41' down from tip of the pole to the lure.
So if the tip is 6' above water, this should put the lure at about 35 FOW.

Is this not correct?
My initial drop of line is about 45' to the bottom, then it drifts up again, I drop it to about 65, drifts up again, then about 85, and so on till about 120.

I think he ment from harness to weight should be half that. (4ft). Line out will depend on line diameter, speed, depth desired. When dragging harnesses like that usually going just fast enough to turn the blades and keeping contact with the bottom is the ticket. Try around Seneca shoal and between there and Meyers reef. The departure buoy to Seneca shoal should be getting good now too.
06-14-2013, 05:34 PM
overthelimit

I meant shorten the leader from bouncer to harness. An 8 foot leader is likely dragging bottom if your tapping it with the bouncer. You want your presentation just above the fish as eyes come up for their prey.

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