I use all 3. Jets, Dipsy's, and Keel or egg weights. The problem your incuring is the bottom bouncers are to heavy to troll and spin around entanglling the line. Obviously unknown till ya pull them up. Try the 3 listed. They will treat ya right and you'll have allot less frustration and tangles to deal with. I find it amazing how well the 20' jets produce with stinger spoons 50 ft back of the boat. The walleye dont seem to care. Oh Yeah! Squirt em with WD 40. And change your trolling speed frquently by turning the boat direction or changing engine speed. The stop and drop method produces, so does the swing