Angler in need of some help

[Hoytman86]

I questioned the validity of this as well, buy I figured I'd approach it as if it was someone who was seriously considering taking a kayak out onto lake Erie on sub 50 degree water. I know that anyone who's been out on the lake enough has experienced something that makes them understand and appreciate the dangers it presents.

If you're looking for fishing advise, I've contributed my two cents. My adviser is to go out on a charter first or, if you insist on chasing eyes in a kayak, to do so on one of the rivers during the down. I cannot in good conscious recommend any locations, strategies or anything else on the lake for someone in a kayak with a child in tow. The waves, wind and currents are too dangerous and a lake of glass can turn into a lake of horrors on the span of ten minutes.

Honestly, the refs that are targeted for the jig bites are miles from shore, getting home is traveling into the wind 90% of the time and having less than 2' waves that far out is simply a rarity. Nobody here is trying to be mean or rude, were trying to relay to someone just how serious a situation it can be and trying to keep Jenny Greenteeth from claiming another 2 victims.

[bevardjesse]

Ok guys my Facebook is [email protected] with map of were we will be putting in and were we are planning on going please take a look see if that will ease some of your concerns and then please can you tell me if and what the chances of catching a few Walleye would be.

[Hoytman86]

http://m.toledoblade.com/local/2014/...Lake-Erie.html

Sorry if this story hits close to home for some of you, I just wanted to make sure there's not another like out this year.

[bevardjesse]

Ok I want to say thanks to the couple guys that have helped me. To the worry warts I have tried to stress we will be taking every persuasion we can, but we will be their in the spring we will be in kayaks. In the state of Ohio there was 80 deaths due to auto accidents in 2014 and on Lake Erie there was 6 deaths 2 of witch was Kayaks. Statistically speaking if you are that worried maybe you should stop driving and stay out of automobiles. Sorry I come here for info on Walleye fishing I know the dangers of the lake I know the water turns fast, but I did not come here to here about that I was simply trying to get some fishing info. I will not be deterred. So say what you want call me an idiot I don't really care. I again thank those of you who gave me the info I was asking for and would again appreciate any more info. I could get about fishing the back waters of Maumee bay.

[Bggeary]

Ok I want to say thanks to the couple guys that have helped me. To the worry warts I have tried to stress we will be taking every persuasion we can, but we will be their in the spring we will be in kayaks. In the state of Ohio there was 80 deaths due to auto accidents in 2014 and on Lake Erie there was 6 deaths 2 of witch was Kayaks. Statistically speaking if you are that worried maybe you should stop driving and stay out of automobiles. Sorry I come here for info on Walleye fishing I know the dangers of the lake I know the water turns fast, but I did not come here to here about that I was simply trying to get some fishing info. I will not be deterred. So say what you want call me an idiot I don't really care. I again thank those of you who gave me the info I was asking for and would again appreciate any more info. I could get about fishing the back waters of Maumee bay.

Dude! Leave the 15 year girl at home!

[bocajemma]

Dude! Leave the 15 year girl at home!

2nd this!!!!! Leave the girl at home. You have zero experience on Lake Erie, which is very evident from the questions you are asking about where to fish and how to fish. If you are dead set on doing this, go with another crazy adult or by yourself (I really don't recommend by yourself) for the first trip. Gain some first hand experience on the lake in the spring and how miserably cold and wet you will be even if you don't fall in the water. Your statistics mean nothing since most kayakers are smart enough to not even attempt what you are thinking. Just do us all a favor and make the first trip without the girl. Gain first hand experience and don't go by that "statistically" it's safe. Until you experience it for yourself first hand you will not understand what we are trying to tell you. Again, please plan a pre-trip for yourself without the girl to make an educated decision on if it's worth risking your fishing partners life on.

[wakina]

2nd this!!!!! Leave the girl at home. You have zero experience on Lake Erie, which is very evident from the questions you are asking about where to fish and how to fish. If you are dead set on doing this, go with another crazy adult or by yourself (I really don't recommend by yourself) for the first trip. Gain some first hand experience on the lake in the spring and how miserably cold and wet you will be even if you don't fall in the water. Your statistics mean nothing since most kayaks are smart enough to not even attempt what you are thinking. Just do us all a favor and make the first trip without the girl. Gain first hand experience and don't go by that "statistically" it's safe. Until you experience it for yourself first hand you will not understand what we are trying to tell you. Again, please plan a pre-trip for yourself without the girl to make an educated decision on if it's worth risking your fishing partners life on.

bocajemma~~You nailed it.

On top of that bevardjesse stated that there were 6 deaths on lake Erie last year, 2 of which or 1/3 of the deaths were kayakers, and 4 of which or 2/3 were boaters. We all know that there was a single accident last spring that took 4 lives and caused a great deal of pain and suffering for those family members who had to wait several days for all of their loved ones to be found. Most are also familiar with the deaths of those 2 in their Kayaks on Sandusky Bay.

Putting this in another light statistically, exactly 1/3 of the fatal accidents involved a motorized watercraft where there has been no determination as to what caused the accident in the first place. 2/3 of the fatal accidents involved 2 kayaks in the same incident but different accidents. The cause of those accidents was determined to be going on the water in unsafe conditions with a craft that was not of sufficient design to offset the water conditions and/or lack of experience. In both cases exposure was a factor in all of those deaths!

Safety is the first order of business when on the water, please do not come on this site and ask for rookie fishing advise and then tell us you will be first time Kayak fishermen on Lake Erie. Is it any wonder there were posts questioning your experience with lake Erie and the ability to deal with the most treacherous of the Great Lakes with wind and weather changes. Questions about fishing should be second. Most if not all of the people on this site want you to come and enjoy the Lake and to do so in a safe manner.