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06-24-2014, 08:43 AM #1
Clearly you're in the right. Think about it this way, what if you'd been perching and had been anchored. Are you then responsible for pulling anchor and moving out of the way of every boat that came your way? Guy was just being a jerk.
18. Responsibilities between vesselsExcept in narrow channels, traffic separation schemes, and when overtaking (i.e., rules 9, 10, and 13) A power-driven vessel must give way to: a vessel not under command;
a vessel restricted in her ability to manoeuvre (this may include vessels towing one another[12]);
a vessel engaged in fishing;
a sailing vessel.
A vessel engaged in fishing when underway shall, so far as possible, keep out of the way of:
a vessel not under command;
a vessel restricted in her ability to manoeuvre.
Any vessel other than a vessel not under command or a vessel restricted in her ability to manoeuvre shall, if possible, not impede the safe passage of a vessel constrained by her draft, exhibiting the signals in Rule 28.
A vessel constrained by her draft shall navigate with particular caution having full regard to her special condition.[6]
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06-24-2014, 08:56 AM #2
thanks for the replys, i knew about the sailboats being under sail, and i always try to be as courteous as possible to other boats, the problem is it almost never gets shown back. if i am running on plane towards a group of boats heading to a fishing spot, when we get close to the pack, i will throttle down and no wake through so as not to jostle everyone around, i sit out there all day long and watch jerks weave there way through packs of boats at wide open.
as to the situation i was referring to, i was almost sure i was in the right, but again, i will avoid problems, rather than allowing them to happen to prove a point. so i started and moved away, however we had been sitting there, i wouldnt even call it drifting on sunday, for better than an hour before he came by, so he clearly just thought everyone should move for him, i didnt stop and start drifting near his path. he was also not a charter.
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06-24-2014, 09:17 AM #3
hey we were trolling all by our self's yesterday, a few boats several miles away, I found and active pod of fish and was working a tight area, along comes a sail boat, it's sail was out but there was no wind, it was moving to fast not to be under power, it was on my right so I made a hard left to get out of it's way, that sail boat was not going to change course, any more I get out of everyone's way even if I have the right away. It came really close to us, we had a triple on and didn't notice the sail boat until it was very close. I avoid packs at all costs. I thought it was kind of funny, maybe that sailor wanted to see if we were catching anything. He did wave to us and I kindly waved backed.
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06-25-2014, 08:00 AM #4
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06-25-2014, 08:47 AM #5
Here is something that everyone seems to be forgetting or at least no one has mentioned it yet!
The rules of the road is a legal guideline that defines prudent behavior and defines who has right of way to maintain course and speed under normal circumstances. I think we are all aware of that fact! But here is the kicker.
It also states that both vessels if under command must take such action as to avoid a collision at all costs. Meaning that if a boat or vessel is approaching you from the left and is apparently not going to give way to your vessel which is on the approaching vessels right then your vessel on the right is bound by law to take all means to avoid the collision by changing course, slowing down or even stopping.
I realize that most everyone here would take such action and avoid a collision if at all possible! I only posted this to let everyone know that it is addressed in the Rules of the Road of navigation and that being on the right of another vessel does not give you the absolute right of way. It is somewhat confusing when you read the rules but it is what it is so be aware.Wakina
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06-25-2014, 01:42 PM #6
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06-25-2014, 02:03 PM #7
Wakina
23 foot Pro Line
HDS 5X Sonar
HDS 5M GPS
Navonics chip, model #DMSD/649P+
Platinum Plus Lake Erie and Lake St Clair Marine.
Raymarine Dragonfly7 Sonar-Downvision-GPS combo with chirp technology.
Navonics Hotmaps Premium East chip
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06-26-2014, 08:51 AM #8
you are right about the boat on the right giving way to the boat on the left. if we didn't do that there would be many wrecks on the water. I have been trolling for many yrs and I couldn't even guess how many times I have been on the right and had to change course to avoid a wreck. there are just to many people out there that just doesn't know the boat on the right should have the right of way. and then there is that 10% that just don't care.
when I first started boating I didn't have a clue as to who had the right of way. so I always just did what I had to to avoid problems. after I found out the boat on the right is supposed to have the right of way I always wait until I see the boat on my left isn't going to give me the right of way. then I will do what ever it takes to avoid the other boat and his lines.
I personally think every boater in the us should have to take a basic knowledge test before driving a boat or take some kind of boating class.
I was trolling on the western basin and I seen this sail boat coming out. it was pointed right at me so I slowed down to let him go first. then after a few minutes I looked back and he was still heading right at us so I speeded up quite a bit I just knew we would be gone before he got there. I looked back a few minutes later and he was getting close and was headed right at us. it was like he was just trying to get us. I started turning the boat but he was barring down on us. he came so close that we had to pull the rods from that side of the boat and used our hands to push off the sail boat. I know the sail boat has the right of way but he shouldn't have the right to run you down. if he had of kept his course to start with there wouldn't have been any problems. but when I slowed down he had to have turned his boat to keep heading right at us. then when I speeded up he should have went behind us. but no matter what I did he just kept coming right at us. it was like he was using us as a steering point.
under normal conditions I would have just turned the boat around sooner. but the air adjustment screw had came out and we lost a full tank of gas. so all the gas we had was what little we had left in the other 2 tanks where we changed tanks a little early so we wouldn't run out while trolling. so we was trolling on our way back to our harbor. however we did run out of gas but we was only a couple of miles west of the harbor. but not really close enough to get anyone to notice us. but then out of nowhere there came this boat from the west and we flagged him down. we asked him if we could borrow about a gallon of gas. he said he had been lost and had run out most of his gas. then he asked if we knew how much farther it was to Cooley canal inlet. we told him about 2 more miles. we said watch where a boat was coming in and that was the harbor. then he said he would try and tow us in. we made it in and tried to pay him for helping us out, but he refused any money.
sorry for such a long post, but I thought the sail boat story needed told. then I thought I should tell the whole story.
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