4 of us got are lines wet at about 12:45 got about 10 perch 200 yds E. of green can, There was a pack of boats about another mile E, went to the west side of the pack, ground out a little over a 2 man limit not bad size, and did the sorting thing of course. 30 fow speaders , crappie, and skipper rigs. No hands down winner on which rig did the best. Pulled anchor about 5:15 18# at the cleaners