Cap'nCrunch, I forgot to mention that this guy was using a bobber with a 1/16 oz. jig with a green artificial curly tail worm. He was throwing it close to the dock where the boats come in and started playing with his line down by his reel. We went perch fishing and passed him on the way to the pier. After we didnt have much luck, we came back and he was still there with all those crappie. So i'm almost positive that he caught them there. Everyone who goes down there seems to use bobbers, but I have never personally caught a fish while using a bobber. Im also not used to using lures either since I am mostly perch fishing (tight lining a perch or crappie rig). I tried it for a little bit today since there was a nice overcast and winds out of the south. Still no fish pulled out of the water. I even used live minnows and tried some crappie jigs. After about an hour, I used the rest of my minnows perch fishing and went home. I am so frustrated!