Did the bag thing for our 1st year(2002) got it into the prop (we have a inboard) what a mess. Lucky it was summertime had to go under and cut it free. 2003 bought a 9.9 Merc Bigfoot can troll at any speed now. Had a manuel lift to start with to save $$. Father in law not getting any younger so we upgraded to a Panther Lift this spring. Be there Tommorrow for a week if I get into any I will update . Any starting points for trolling and jigging would be much appreciated. Thanks. Going out of Wild Wings