I don't want to sell them... I was just sharing my style of fishing... You guys do what ever works for you... I have sent over 1900 free ones and 42 sold ones.. i am always here to help.by the way all you eye casters the shallow water bite is red hot up on gull island shoul and Kelly island shoul. Get up there and get them.. weight forward sinners.. even seen some twisted tales.. tiny teasers worked the best..