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    Default MoonDog AKA No Fish

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonDog View Post
    SKUNKED SKUNKED SKUNKED

    Begining to be a natural occurance.... And i used to do great on the lake...


    Tried trolling, drifting, casting, bottom bouncers, inlines, dipseys, jets, spoons, harnesses, mayfly rigs, nuggets, erie dearies, and NOTHING. Listend to guys on the radio catchin in 17 FOW, but i couldnt snag a weed if my life depended on it. Apparently I suck at this big time! Walleye capital and I cant get ONE... I should just go buy some and end the heartache and money I'm throwin down the drain to feed the family. Begining to hate Walleye. As you can probably tell, I'm pretty bummed to say the least!

    MD AKA No Fish AKA No Help

    My best luck is with harnesses (see pictrues under the "June 20th" post). A Lot of guys use spoons (spoontang is the expert this area) but I havn't had luck with them but I think I know what my problem is. Try harnesses with a in line weight (1 1/2 oz) and troll it about 1-1.6mph. For spoons you can use divers, dipseys, downriggers or weights to get them down (you'll hear/read of diffrent people doing diffrent things); the main idea it to get them down to fish level. For spoons I think you have to go faster say 1.8-2.3 to get the right action. I think this has been my problem with spoons (going too slow). If these don't work get back and we will see what we can do. John
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    Quote Originally Posted by True Blue View Post
    My best luck is with harnesses (see pictrues under the "June 20th" post). A Lot of guys use spoons (spoontang is the expert this area) but I havn't had luck with them but I think I know what my problem is. Try harnesses with a in line weight (1 1/2 oz) and troll it about 1-1.6mph. For spoons you can use divers, dipseys, downriggers or weights to get them down (you'll hear/read of diffrent people doing diffrent things); the main idea it to get them down to fish level. For spoons I think you have to go faster say 1.8-2.3 to get the right action. I think this has been my problem with spoons (going too slow). If these don't work get back and we will see what we can do. John
    Thanks for the compliment.

    The rule of thumb is to look in the water and have the spoon right beside the boat to see the action. It should swoop back and forth and not wobble, roll or drop lifelessly. Some of the same applies to cranks. They all have an action of differant sorts. Without speed, they won't reach the desired depth and action. Near 2 mph is needed to achieve this in most circumstances. The exception is prespawn and alot of pros use extra weight to get the lure down

    I would say worm harnesses ideal is 1 mph give or take. Again look at the blade right beside the boat. You just want it turning and that is all you need.

    Spoons- scorpion size 1.6-2.4 mph
    stinger size 1.8- 3.0
    magnum size 1.8-3.5

    I have found the smaller spoons start to roll at lower speeds and they all roll near 3.5 unless you get high speed specific spoons such as Flutter Chucks by Eppinger that can handle more speed.

    Trolling is almost always best with the wind. The theory behind this is the fish feed into wind and surface current.

    Location Location Location Location

    You have to be over fish to catch them.

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