Have been using Dipsey's on Lake Erie for some 40 years or so in the New York Eastern Basin waters out of Dunkirk and Barcelona. Start with the smaller ones in June and by late July am using the Magnum #3's to reach the 60 to 80 feet down levels to target walleye. With the 0 and #1 I use 20# braid and 12# leader. With the #3 Magnum I'm using a 50# braid and 20# XT leader and using 10' Ugly Stik Dipsey Diver Rods.