the shinner buisness is looking to be a lost art for our ohio boats many have given up and got jobs to support there family an j bait still catches his own so he will have bait at his shop before anyone else i think st clair also catches there own so i call anjs if he dont have shinners its most likely we dont have any further west being he supplies most shops i thought the law changed last year so you can transport shinners over the state line it all started when the fish got a disease years ago the fish started dying and floating on top due to this i remember going out and seeing thje fish seems to me it was mostly sheepheads so where does the bait cave in mich get his bait lake mich, huron where are shinners at seems he always had shinners last year i guess i broke the law and did not know since i paid for license on the boat .and a fishing license in mich and ohio we usually go salmon fishing on lake mich for a few weeks looks like a no go this year due to being to busy and buddy that goes just got custody of his 3 kids being special needs for 1 we spend lots of money on bait lures and gas and lodging looks like lake erie perching this year and no shinners i used goldies twice this year got fish but the shops are paying for these goldies so the scoops are small and cost is up