Mikecat, if you were referring to my reply on Skipper9's thread when I said I ran 30/30 with one once. You are correct that the line count is 30 from lure to weight and another 30 to the board. I was running bandits and was just experimenting and started catching walleye. I know I was close to the bottom in 27 ft of water because I caught 2 perch while trolling.