Well we got out late friday morning and went out to 62 fow, north west out of SP, water was rough but we found some fish. Anchored up & caught some perch. Only brought home 16 fish but all we great size perch. Ty got his first erie perch and out fished granpa...He got 1 that was 15" and fat as a small football plus a couple double headers. A few others 14" & 13". The kid loved it!!!! Thanks Fishkiller for the starting point info. Was hoping to make it to the pinic and meet some of you guys today but it's the wifes birthday, so need I say anymore? Good Fishing Guys!!!!!!!!