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07-24-2012, 10:57 PM #1
Joe, I had the same thing happen as you. Stripped harnesses or just the tails of worms nipped off. Weight of the fish there then poof, gone. I can only blame myself for that though. These eyes were hitting very light and swimming with the boat. I should have A: sharpened my hooks better. And B: added small treble stingers to the last hook and into the tail of the worm. Every eye we landed saturday was Barely hooked in the tip of the mouth with the last hook. Not one fish hit and was hooked solidly. Also none of the fish tripped the dipsys or riggers. I was running snubbers on everything, but also had everything set very light. Makes me wonder how long those fish were on? Cause everytime I would check the lines I had walleye on. The only time my lines popped was at the very start of trolling, both riggers popped within a minute of each other the first ten minutes of trolling. Both lines had good solid weight on them half way to the boat. Then gone. And what's with the small fish this year? I never used to get small and big fish mixed while trolling open water. Usually smaller fish would be in the shallows. By small fish I mean you have to question yourself about getting the ruler out to see if it's even legal and just end up throwing it back anyway. Lol
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07-24-2012, 11:05 PM #2
I'm liking all the small throwbacks myself. we. all know next couple. years is gonna. be great. fishing
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07-25-2012, 07:02 AM #3
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07-25-2012, 12:06 PM #4
Most of the bites have been light all over the lake. People that i know that fish out of Dunkirk see the same types of bites - very very light. The only way you find a fish on your line is when you pull up to check your bait. ?????
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07-25-2012, 08:12 PM #5
Kinda glad it isn't just me who has dropped lots of fish. Its been driving me nuts and all the short hits also. I haven't made it out 2 weeks in a row maybe this weekend i'll make it out things been hectic and that darn wind. It just won't let up
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07-25-2012, 10:03 PM #6
That's what I've heard. Also know a few guys that are bottom bouncing harnesses and holding there rods to feel the hits. But they are also picking up alot of trash fish.
A small treble stinger in the tail end of the worm will fix all those short strikers. I used a single hook stinger tied to my jig this spring for eyes and most of my fish I boated were hooked by the stinger hook. yeah bailey this wind is brutal. It ruined my whole vacation last week. Only made it out once to fish.
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07-25-2012, 11:13 PM #7
85% of the fish we have caught this year have been slamming them, during the Amara Can everyone of the 45 fish we caught either the lower hooks were down in their throats or I needed to use pliers to remove them out of thier jaws. We have dropped some fish this year but mostly due to human error. I think most of the light bites come on a dipsy or a rigger with short leads. I have found over the years that on the really hot summers with a lack of rain the water clarity is so good that the dipsys, jets and riggers are too spooky for the fish, therefore they nip the bait and swim on. Also increase your trolling speed to 1.9-2.1, you will get better hook sets, and as I have always said set the hooks hard dont pussyfoot around. We loose very few fish and Bailey and Fishon 51 can atest to that. Try a straight Lead Core or a Torpedo program (more of a stealthy approach on both) and I think your success rates will increase, but you will need 3,5,7,8,9,and 10 color rods to cover the water colum. You will always loose fish to human error but you can help eliminate the tackle errors. If some of you are dead set on running dipsys switch to the Lite Bite Slide Divers and run 100' leads, or run your dipsys on OR 16 clips with 50' to 100' of line behind them. One other thing its not worth my time to sharpen hooks I never have nor will I ever sharpen hooks as a matter of fact I dont own a hook hone. Buy better quality hooks such as Mustad Octopus hooks, they are some of the sharpest hooks available. If I get a hook that I feel is getting dull or bent up too bad I cut the harness apart and tie new hooks up and rebuild the harness. I use a Red Mustad 1/0 or 2/0 Octopus (model# 92553) with 30lb red coated 7 strand AFW wire on all my personal harnesses. I buy my hooks by the 1000 ct boxes so I always have a few "extras" laying around.....lol. This is by no means meant to bash anyone elses program or ideas its just how we do things on my boat and we average almost 400 walleyes a season just in NY. Good Luck Everyone.
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07-27-2012, 09:59 AM #8
i consider this walleye fishing summer school
thanks teachers
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07-27-2012, 10:04 AM #9
i've learned to tie harnesses recently fishkiller whar are you using for blades - your preference?
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07-26-2012, 07:03 AM #10
Jim right on with the water clarity to light strikes. My buddy and I talked about switching over to leadcore on a couple rods. I am only running a 7 ft lead on the dipsys. But was running 130 lead on the riggers. Troll speed is 1.8-2.3. Flat water no current is 2.1. My grandparents who used to fish exclusively for muskies and monster northerns in the 1000 islands swore by leadcore line. And they caught some of the biggest fish on the island over the years.
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