No the playoffs won't be in Eden. As a matter of fact Eden stopped having men's fast pitch softball games at the corn festival a few years ago. Insurance issues.
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No the playoffs won't be in Eden. As a matter of fact Eden stopped having men's fast pitch softball games at the corn festival a few years ago. Insurance issues.
I've learned so much from you all but, am curious do you guys engage in other types of fishing...sm. & lrg. bass, crappie, etc.
I do alot of stream fishing for trout and steelies, I bass fish both from shore and boat, perch, cast/troll for northerns. Gonna try my hand at jigging the river for muskies. Also when the salmon come back shallow this fall take the boat up to Ontario and troll. I fish and hunt as much as I can. But lately work and more work have been getting in the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by wishin fishin
I fish the lower river & lk. Ontario a few times in spring & fall. Also love to perch fish lk. erie in spring & fall. I deer hunt with bow & blk. powder and do some spring turkey hunting.
This wind really blows. Wasn't bad earlier. Headed down to sp and and just got worse and worse. Pulled up to the launch and the guy just looks at me and says are you crazy? Everybody came in. So at least the boats fueled for the weekend if it's nice. It just keeps blowing harder and harder.
Went out of Barcelona at first light today. Fished 75 FOW with Walker divers 120' back. Had 5 fish by 11:30AM as the lake began to get pretty rough. All fish came on Renosky's.
fished salmon and trout in Lake Ontario for 40+ years as an amateur, and some professionally. Now walleye and perch fishing Erie for a change, for fun and to fill the freezer (not a fan of eating LO salmon or trout).Quote:
Originally Posted by wishin fishin
Hunt geese, deer and turkeys with a bow, rifle and black powder when I am not on a boat.
shoot indoor target archery in winter while waiting for the outdoor seasons to begin again.
so many options, too little time :)
WC, which Renoskys -crytalina's or chattersticks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrestling Coach
i just got started walleye fishing last few years learning alot from this web site great group of people i do fish for perch in the spring and fall also like to bass fish its just alot fun being out on the boat with friends and family i deer hunt alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by wishin fishin
milt
Crystalina, Black/Purple or BlueQuote:
Originally Posted by ShortHanded
Walker divers large. Set 120 back on #3. I remove the front hook and attach 1/3 of a nightcrawler to the rear hook.
thanks for the extra info. hope to get out there before the end of the month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrestling Coach
Nice day on the water. A lot of boats out there today. Boxed 4 lost 3 and something really big that my buddy saw jump out of the water but I didn't see it. All on harnesses. 62 fow. Nuc green, Nuc raspberry, and rainbow were the producers. Had a lot of short strike misses. Also none of the fish popped the dipsys or riggers. Even the 7lb just nipped the last hook and went along for the swim. And I had all my releases set light. I should have tied stingers to the wh and not ran everything with snubbers but oh well. Wish I could have saw what the big fish was. It popped the dipsy at 53ft went straight up and threw the harness at the surface. Brown trout maybe? Friend said it was way to big to be a bass and said it was carp sized. Dipsys ran 150ft back. Riggers ran 58ft down 130 backQuote:
Originally Posted by Fishon51
Other than temp being warm copo my guess mr steelhead came to play to bad it came off would've been a great fight if it was.
Heard someone on the radio near us say they caught a 26" sheepshead - maybe? Water was pretty warm for steel head.Quote:
Originally Posted by copo427ss
I would say steelie also. I never had a sheepshead jump, but I have had a few walleyes jump over the years mostly in cold waters. I'll be out there sunday out of sbh till around noon or so. Call on 68. Good luck everyone.
I'm leaning towards steelie myself. I've never had a sheepshead jump either.
But up at my grandparents cottage in the 1000 islands Jigging for eyes I caught a 33 inch sheepshead. 40 min fight, and never knew what it was until the end. Never saw one that big before. Everyone stopped fishing and drove over to watch. We figured it was around 20lbs. People took a bunch of pictures. Lol.
Isn't the thermocline setting up at around 60fow?
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Y3eZBevctBuzQA
Mine was just about like this!
I used to do a lot of fishing before I got married and up until kids were born, and lots of hunting, more hunting than fishing. Grew up in wny and never fished erie once until a few years ago when I realized that I really ought to try fishing in this lake I keep reading about! I used to carry around a collapsable pole in my car and fish whenever I could. I remember catching these brown trout in a stream near washington dc that you wouldn't expect to hold fish. I fished far carp at ub when I took classes there, right on the spaulding dorm area lakes, they were fun, caught them on nightcrawlers. One of my favorite places that I caught fish was up in homer, alaska, and my wife and I went halibut fishing on a charter boat that was lots of fun, but a lot of work. 2 lb weight, big hook and 200 feet down on the bottom just like perch fishing. The biggest halibut we caught that day was over 100 lbs. Once they get over 60 lbs they actually shoot them before bringing them in the boat so the flipping wouldn't hurt anything. Nobody knew this and somebody brought in the first decent fish like that, and the first mate pulls out this rusty old .410 shotgun, I think we all thought at the same time he was going to shoot us and dump the bodies LOL. It was hard work though to reel up that 200 feet just to check your bait, arms get tired from all the reeling. It felt like you were bringing up a concrete block when a decent fish was on.Quote:
Originally Posted by wishin fishin
Also we went to yellowstone park, hiked a 5 mile one way trail in a bear infested area (warning signs at trailhead), but ended up catching artic greyling, that was neat. Not real big but plenty of them, on spinners.
That collapsible pole came in pretty handy sometimes when on a golf course, throw a cast or 2 if you could sneak one in, sometimes those bass got big.
I fish mostly Erie, so will chase steelies in the tribs from Fall to Spring. Then it’s smallies in the tribs and from shore before getting the boat out. I will also cast for largemouths anytime I am around a pond!
In terms of walleyes, I did manage to get out last night for the first time in about a month, so finally have something to report. Boated 3 and lost 2 along the eastern end of Seneca Shoal, bottom bouncing crawler harnesses off 3-ways. As is often the case for me, if I get fish it’s typically on a small chartreuse pattern with silver blades, and that was the case last night. The copper/ watermelon harness got the two fish which I lost (one which hit while I had cut the trolling motor to bring in the other fish, so there must have been enough drift without it)! Too bad it cut the line on the way up… Sure felt like a walleye versus the head-shaking of a sheephead. The boated fish probably ranged from 2-4 pounds each
All the ‘eyes hit between 8:15 and 9:15. I have read elsewhere that a half hour before and after dusk is often a prime feeding time, and that has generally been the case for me most times.
It took a little while to get out to the shoal with the 1+ footers, but heading back with the waves was much easier. There were a few other boats up past the shoal, where I started, but where I found the fish there wasn’t anyone else around. The shoal was also crawling with bait- I didn’t mark any big fish but could certainly see what was attracting them. For a relative newcomer like me, it was a great night to be out and to be able to get into multiple fish!
I was hoping to try and get out tonight, but looking at the forecast as well as the buoy conditions it’s probably not going to happen. Good luck to anyone else who may be heading out…
what fow were you fishing inQuote:
Originally Posted by NateD
Forgot to mention that... they hit on the transition from 35 up to 30. I think it may have gotten as shallow us the upper 20s before I hit the other side, but mainly was in the low 30s.
thx for the info in early may at night i fish the 16 fow on the west side of the departure bouyQuote:
Originally Posted by NateD
I went out Sat 7:00 am to 1:30 pm. Boxed 3 with 1 throwback. It was legal but too small to keep. Got one perch off the down rigger 63 fow 58 ft down. A few silver bass and of coarse Mr. Sheephead. I found something interesting. We started out at 62 fow. It was 75.6 on the top. I put the downrigger down to 55 ft & the temp. Was 74.2. We trolled west from Pt. Abino to 68 ft. & put thd downrigger down to 64 ft. The temp there was 66 deg. I hit numerous cold spots intermittently.. Wanted to get out Sun. but you know how hard it is to get two nice days in a row on lake Erie
Jim how did you do Sunday? I saw you puttin the baja on the trailer as I was headin out with my friends family to go tubing. It was pretty rough on the other side of the wall.
We went 3 for 8, we dropped 3 right at the net ( kids reeling). We were sheep masters though.....lol It got a little choppy coming in. You should have introduced your self.
You guys looked pretty busy and it was a cluster at retrieval. Otherwise I would have stopped and said hey. And I had a boat full of kids myself. We did meet this spring at sbh perch fishing. It was raining. I believe it was you and ur partner with the wives.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishkiller16
Sheep masters lol. But kids never really care what's on the end of the line as long as its a fish lol.
It's almost hard to believe, 76 on top, and 74 degrees 55 feet down. I never would have imagined that. My guess is that is what happens when zebra mussels clear out the water like they have over the recent years?Quote:
Originally Posted by captainjoe
Here is another interesting one:
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/laketemps/laketemps.php
Lake erie temperature, today it's 76, and that reading is taken from 30 foot depth.
So when you hit cold spots, did you register more fish on the finder?
Fishkiller, I was putting my boat in at the same dock as you were pulling away Sun. AM.. I wondered how you made out, I got 1 in the so. gap & gave it away after 3hrs. of fishing.
Sometimes we did see more fish going into and out of the cold spots. But not to extreme that it made a big difference. But it was hard to watch the poles, temperature gage, fishfinder and drive the boat at the same time. We did pull up a few times and the harnesses were striped. Afew times we had good solid hits - started bringing them in and then poof it was gone. They did feel like walleye head jerks. I've never heard about so many people droping fish this year that happened in the years past. ???
Joe, I had the same thing happen as you. Stripped harnesses or just the tails of worms nipped off. Weight of the fish there then poof, gone. I can only blame myself for that though. These eyes were hitting very light and swimming with the boat. I should have A: sharpened my hooks better. And B: added small treble stingers to the last hook and into the tail of the worm. Every eye we landed saturday was Barely hooked in the tip of the mouth with the last hook. Not one fish hit and was hooked solidly. Also none of the fish tripped the dipsys or riggers. I was running snubbers on everything, but also had everything set very light. Makes me wonder how long those fish were on? Cause everytime I would check the lines I had walleye on. The only time my lines popped was at the very start of trolling, both riggers popped within a minute of each other the first ten minutes of trolling. Both lines had good solid weight on them half way to the boat. Then gone. And what's with the small fish this year? I never used to get small and big fish mixed while trolling open water. Usually smaller fish would be in the shallows. By small fish I mean you have to question yourself about getting the ruler out to see if it's even legal and just end up throwing it back anyway. Lol
I'm liking all the small throwbacks myself. we. all know next couple. years is gonna. be great. fishing
That is true, the amount of sublegal fish everyone has been catching this year will be 20 inchers next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by half pole
Most of the bites have been light all over the lake. People that i know that fish out of Dunkirk see the same types of bites - very very light. The only way you find a fish on your line is when you pull up to check your bait. ?????
Kinda glad it isn't just me who has dropped lots of fish. Its been driving me nuts and all the short hits also. I haven't made it out 2 weeks in a row maybe this weekend i'll make it out things been hectic and that darn wind. It just won't let up
That's what I've heard. Also know a few guys that are bottom bouncing harnesses and holding there rods to feel the hits. But they are also picking up alot of trash fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainjoe
A small treble stinger in the tail end of the worm will fix all those short strikers. I used a single hook stinger tied to my jig this spring for eyes and most of my fish I boated were hooked by the stinger hook. yeah bailey this wind is brutal. It ruined my whole vacation last week. Only made it out once to fish.
85% of the fish we have caught this year have been slamming them, during the Amara Can everyone of the 45 fish we caught either the lower hooks were down in their throats or I needed to use pliers to remove them out of thier jaws. We have dropped some fish this year but mostly due to human error. I think most of the light bites come on a dipsy or a rigger with short leads. I have found over the years that on the really hot summers with a lack of rain the water clarity is so good that the dipsys, jets and riggers are too spooky for the fish, therefore they nip the bait and swim on. Also increase your trolling speed to 1.9-2.1, you will get better hook sets, and as I have always said set the hooks hard dont pussyfoot around. We loose very few fish and Bailey and Fishon 51 can atest to that. Try a straight Lead Core or a Torpedo program (more of a stealthy approach on both) and I think your success rates will increase, but you will need 3,5,7,8,9,and 10 color rods to cover the water colum. You will always loose fish to human error but you can help eliminate the tackle errors. If some of you are dead set on running dipsys switch to the Lite Bite Slide Divers and run 100' leads, or run your dipsys on OR 16 clips with 50' to 100' of line behind them. One other thing its not worth my time to sharpen hooks I never have nor will I ever sharpen hooks as a matter of fact I dont own a hook hone. Buy better quality hooks such as Mustad Octopus hooks, they are some of the sharpest hooks available. If I get a hook that I feel is getting dull or bent up too bad I cut the harness apart and tie new hooks up and rebuild the harness. I use a Red Mustad 1/0 or 2/0 Octopus (model# 92553) with 30lb red coated 7 strand AFW wire on all my personal harnesses. I buy my hooks by the 1000 ct boxes so I always have a few "extras" laying around.....lol. This is by no means meant to bash anyone elses program or ideas its just how we do things on my boat and we average almost 400 walleyes a season just in NY. Good Luck Everyone.
Jim right on with the water clarity to light strikes. My buddy and I talked about switching over to leadcore on a couple rods. I am only running a 7 ft lead on the dipsys. But was running 130 lead on the riggers. Troll speed is 1.8-2.3. Flat water no current is 2.1. My grandparents who used to fish exclusively for muskies and monster northerns in the 1000 islands swore by leadcore line. And they caught some of the biggest fish on the island over the years.
A general rule of thumb has always been the same length of the rod, but when I used to run dipsys we ran 8-10' leads and I always ran snubbers. I always ran single strand 30lb monel wire on the rods and 15lb flouro as my leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishon51
For the light bites off the riggers try useing a rubber band between the line & the release you can pretty much see the smallest/lightest hit on the line. Watch the rod tips.
i consider this walleye fishing summer school
thanks teachers
i've learned to tie harnesses recently fishkiller whar are you using for blades - your preference?