We'll be out tomorrow morning around 7:00 out of sturgeon. I'll post during the day if we do any good. Give me a shout if anyone is out.
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We'll be out tomorrow morning around 7:00 out of sturgeon. I'll post during the day if we do any good. Give me a shout if anyone is out.
capt sounds like you had great day you put three in the box
Any time we get out is a great day. One came off a purple 30 jet with a watermelon harness. The other came off a torpedo diver (snapper) with one of Fishkiller's worm harnesses (light green and white) the other off an inline lead weight ( 2 oz ) dark color. By th way we won Fri night our record is 2 & 2. I'm 2 &1
4 in the box so far between meyers and wanahka 2 off reef runners, 1 off a shark torpedo , and 1 off 5 color lead.
Saturday, May 26th:
two of us went out around 4pm and fished until 11pm.
first, made a pass by windmills 30-35 fow, two huge sheepshead...ugh, ugh!
swung out toward Seneca on the way there a nice 5lb bass...ugh!
swung around shoal to find deeper water, 42fow and headed toward buffalo, 1.8mph.
nw of red buoy started to mark a lot of fish on bottom, some starting to rise. rigger pulling NK glo frog took one around 26in.
at around 8:30pm screen LIT UP, fish everywhere 10ft deep to bottom, took another around 28" on a in-line, single splitshot, ratlin' rougue black/silver.
worked the area for a couple of more passes, no bites, and called it a night. no bites on harnesses
Jack
We went 9 for 11 off Meyers Reef 32-36 foot of water. The Torpedo Diver 4oz Shark was working well today 65' back, along with 5 colors of lead core, & 30 Jets. We even picked up 2 on a Reef Runner Gator Bait 125' back. Our biggest was 5.5 lbs.
Sounds like a good day fishkiller, way to get em ! Nice to hear the daytime start.
Headed out of sbh west of seneca ch 68 shout for bailey if i hear ya ill shout back.
A big Thank you to all our Vets & service men & women out there past & present !!
I went out Sunday (5/27/12) from the SBH at 9 am and fished till 4:15. Started shallow at 30' off windmills then trolled deeper (40'), then went shallow, 1.8 mph half way to Sturgeon Pt, and all I caught was a white bass and a big ugly sheephead. I was using harnesses all colors. It was cool b/c I was using my new fishfinder, Humminbird 581i. Where are the eyes and when will they be hitting ?
Fished out sbh out at 7 in at noon all meat toaday picked 4 keepers lost some at net had 2 dinks black n purple, and confusion. Taken on dipsys and 30 jets off inlines 1.9 mph between seneca and meyers 32 to 38 fow. Rick you should of gave a shout out.
Sorry rick i was out today fishkiller was there yesterday .i miss read your dates.
Late start, early quit. No skunkie for this monkey. One in the box. Trolled from Sturgeon Pt. To Pinehurst. Three poles out got it off a black 20 jet with a watermelon wormharness. Got out 10:00 am back at 2:30.
PS -- the wife had a killer day. She slayed the coupons and killed a magazine.
I have heard these names for a long time but where exactly are they ? Can anyone give me descriptions and/or coordinates ?
Seneca has a red marker bouy on it if you head towards hamburg/pinehurst area watch for it I think about 4-5 miles outof the sbh. Meyers reef is just on the buffalo side of 18 mile creek, there is an inner & a outter reef.
This may help.Quote:
Originally Posted by walleyerick
www.erie.gov/fishmap.pdf
Made it out perch fishing on Sunday with the family had a nice time and the perch were biting. We launched out of sturgeon late, about 10am, wanted to wait and see what the weather looked like first, just decided to drive out and try launching and be prepared to turn around if bad weather set in. There weren't many boats out at all! Main group I joined first only had 4 boats out there. We stopped there but only seemed to be catching small perch and moved on to a couple other spots, ended up only being a mile away from sturgeon and marking fish on the finder. BTW I did split my screen and zoomed up to 6X and 8X and that worked well, was easily able to tell when fish were near. The schools seemed to be roaming around a lot. Anyway, check out these pics of the big pig my daughter caught. It was 13.5 inches, but a real fatty. I've caught bigger but not as hefty. This was not a female full of eggs, no eggs and I pulled out two fish from it's stomach in the next pic. She must have dropped the minnow right in front of it's mouth! The top one almost looks like a small goby. We were in about 52 ft of water, using live and salted emerald shiners with equal results. Here is a pic:
http://ironsinc.com/fishing/20120527...0527Percha.JPG
And what was inside:
http://ironsinc.com/fishing/20120527...0527Perchb.JPG
I fished all around the red buoy (from the buoy and WSW from it) and the bottom goes from 20' to 32' according to my sonar. Lots of weeds there. No walleye though last Sun. So now I know where Seneca Shoals are. Better to launch out of SP and head NE toward Wanakah ?
Rick do you have gps if so ill shoot you a few numbers for a start or next weekend follow me out.
way to go...nice catch!!
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Originally Posted by wnyguy
Yes my Humminbird has GPS and dual range sonar. It is pretty cool & I have been fishing for a long time & never had one before. My kids got it for a Xmas present for me. I used to fish almost exclusively at Angola back in the days there were Blue Pike !
I just got the 798si this spring. The gps rocks. I love the side imaging it really gives you a new perspective underwater.Quote:
Originally Posted by walleyerick
ok you veteran walleye trollers i need your help,
i was out today from 8am - 2pm before it got to rough - i was trolling for the very first time - that is! with more knowledge than in the past. i was in 40fow near seneca schoal, i boxed one 20" on a dispy diver #0 & worm harness copper/orange and lost one at the boat on a dispy diver #0 on a deep diving rapala. the one i landed, i didn't know i had it on and was going to change over my lure, the one i lost i knew i had on cause i heard my drag.
my issue and your help - How can you tell you have a fish on? should i loosen-up my drag so I can hear it scream or is it a better way?
the rods i was using was 8' 6" med. light 10-17 lb. braided (i couldn't tell i had a fish on); my other rod was a 6'6" med. action 6-12 lb. flour. carbon
i learned alot today but need some pointers - i've heard you nguys talk about loosing them at the boat - THAT SUCKS!! is there also a way to cut down on that as well?
Please & Thank-You
Time and practice learn your rods the action the feel those buggers will ride for hours ha ha. If i even think i may have one i didn't notice hit i'll lift rod to feel how dipsy acts. Maybe go smaller on size of dypsy or back pff tension on release a little to. I use stiffer rods but may lighten up myself but i know these ones now. You'll get it. Its even more fun on rougher days lol.
Wishin. try backing your drag off, set them just heavy enough to hold your equip. from pulling drag also leave the clicker on until you fight a fish. As far as loosing them at the boat thats where most are lost. I beleive the proper way to bring a fish in is that you (we) are suppose to back the drag off the closer the fish gets but most don't! Instead we winch them in. Just my 2 cents.
Yes, Start by loosening your drags but not so much they walk out while trolling. Also your starting too deep for this time of year work the Windmills, Seneca Shoal, and Meyers Reef, 32-38 ft range but a lil closer to 32 ft than the 38 ft mark. I pesonally do not run braid at all, I just don't like it, but thats just my personal preferences. I run Mono, Lead Core, and 19 strand Torpedo wire when I happen to use dipseys( which isnt very often). We ended up with 9 Walleyes on Sunday our program was excatly this: 30 Jets on 15# Mono 125 back, 800 series (deep diving) Reef Runners on the color Gator Bait 125 back on 15# Mono, Shark Torpedo Divers (4oz) 65 & 75 ft back on 15# Mono, and 5 Color Lead Core.The Torpedos, Lead Core, and 30 Jets were all run with Harnesses, and on the cranks we tip 1 of the front hooks with a 1" piece of worm just for a lil scent. We trolled between 1.7-1.8 mph on the gps. If you have any more questions just ask.
Fishkiller I must have been near wishin & had the same results. I guess I didn't go far enough west. I was in 35 -42 fow. Got 1 on blue/silver harness & lost 1 on sm confusoin spoon. Marked very few in shallow saw more in 42fow.
I was out monday grey starcraft and there was a white and blue same hull style just out deeper than we were. I was on fish between meyers and seneca on fishkillers advise. You'll get fish unlike most sites info is secret or on buddy system i'll admit i am learning more here than ive learned in years on my own. Ill always help when i comes what comes goed around. I just picked up the drag trick bet your a$$ i'll be trying it next outing. Oh yeah another trick rig dipsys on a 3 way one line to rod one to bait and other to dipsy its a nice cheat can be done with jets also but jets wont flip on retrieve.
hi bailey, on your dispy trick is the bait still trailing off the dispy, so i have both for instance a worm harness and a a reef runner on the 3-wy?
You can do 2 baits buy put stick off dipsy and harness above so upper don't dive into lower.
Hey wishin? Did the small eye you caught not trip the dipsy release? You should loosen the release screw a 1/16 of a turn at a time. Everyone hates losing fish at the boat. It's the worst feeling. They see the boat and start thrashing, usually just out of net range. My buddy laughed at me for my net size, but it works. What I use is a double extension, (10ft) big hoop net. Like Muskie net size. That way I can reach way out and the net size makes it easy to get the fish in on the first shot.
The last walleye I caught trolling felt like a wet sock on the end, I wasn't sure I even had a fish on until it almost got to the boat. The hardware used to get down deeper takes away from feeling the fish on the end somewhat. I have "worked" the pole when trolling, ie bring it slowly forward and then slack off, this gives me a good feel of how everything feels with no fish on, kind of a baseline. I've seen my pole act differently, set the hook, and then bring it slowly forward if I'm still unsure to check how it feels. I'm still new at this fishing erie thing, but years ago used to troll for walleyes up in canada, chautauqua, with smaller everything.
Fish that have fight left in them, when they get near the boat will actually see the boat, think it's a predator and panic. That's why they get lost at the boat, and is exactly what happened to me last year with a big musky that I hooked and lost at the boat, forgot about that crucial time when they see the boat and will try and sound deeper, roll, etc. This can happen especially if the fish does not fight much at first, or you use the boat to get closer to the fish like I did my musky.
thanks guys you have all been so helpful - its because of this forum that my fishing skills have increased - i read all that is posted by you and have learned alot.
i'm a wanna-be al linder, so if you see me on the water, say hello, i drive a blk. 18' lund - "rippin lips"
:)
one confession, although productive, trolling can be so boring, i'm use to feeling for the hit!!
copo i'm a fan of yoursQuote:
Originally Posted by copo427ss
I was reading through the last page of posts and wanted to possible add to the discussion, besides loosening up on the drag, what about the use of a snubber on a dipsy or down rigger or leas core?
Wishin, I think I was near you I was in the grady white boat with the hard top when I picked up & left. Were you in the blk. boat with an orange shirt on ?
I can get bored with it too, that's why I hold a pole and work it. Speed it up, slow it down, up down etc anything to give it a little action and I have consistently outfished the people who just sit there watching the pole. I have caught some niced sized walleyes in the past by moving the pole forward and then moving it back, that slows the lure/bait down right in front of a following fish and they can't help but strike. You know how doing S turns gives you an idea of speed and what the fish want? Same principle and at the least I feel like I'm putting in some effort. In a boat with just two people and a couple of poles this works pretty easy, with 6 lines out and 4 people maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by wishin fishin
My experience with walleyes is that when they hit, it feels like a snag initially, but unlike a snap, the line can be reeled in, then they fight and pull. Do not horse them or you may lose em. After a while they give up and you rell them up pretty easily although there is a weight on the line. When they get close to the boat they get a 2nd wind and fight like crazy. That's when you really have to be careful and let them take line if they want, but never, never, give up the tension on the line. Eventually they get tired and then you reel them up and net 'em. Make sure you net them b/c I have lost lots of walleye real close
to the boat.
Looks like it's going to be a rough weekend for fishing. Small craft earnings until Sat. nite right now. Vision you were lucky you got out yesterday. Everyone be safe. :mad: