"the fisherman", your post sums up my perchin' these past few weeks. Been out 4 times since middle of September. I've caught 13 perch, all of them was in mid-sept. Last 3 trips I have been skunked. I fish out of the Chargrin. Each trip I have tried different areas, anywhere from 38ft to 60ft. Marking fish on the finder, just not catching them. Good thing I still have some fish from last year in the freezer. I'm beginning to think I have forgotten how to fish.