Quote Originally Posted by wakina View Post
36 perch tells me that you were on perch so you may be on the fish but not presenting your bait in a way that satisfies the perch.

Have you tried fishing in the mud? Here are the general instructions for that technique, vary it some with more or less slack to get your best results.

Let the line down to the bottom with about 4 or 5 inches of slack, enough so that the rocking of the boat does not lift the sinker off of the bottom but not so much that you have to raise your rod up a foot or two in order to feel the sinker. After getting it set with the slack just raise your rod tip slowly and pick the weight up off the bottom then back down and wait another couple of seconds and repeat with any added wt. set the hook. This keeps your bait right on the bottom(in the mud) and it seems that over the last few years that the perch prefer that over other methods, at least that has been my experience.
That's pretty much what I've been doin... stir the mud and slow lift and feel the light bite or extra weight