I ordered some of the G hooks mentioned. Worth a try, hate losing Wallys close to the boat. Also ordered some of those red clips you mentioned Rick. gonna try to see if we can change out the clips on our boards and try the red ones. Once we get them in I'll contact you and see if we can buy you dinner or at least a drink @ the Little River sometime soon. Would be fun to sit and shoot the bull a bit with another Walleye chaser. Thanks again.