How far off the bottom?

[wayne johnson]

today 12 miles out it was bottom to 15 ft off bottom, in close to shore, right in the mud, large and meduim cleos

[dueceman35]

we have been useing living eyes green and chartruese it is a form of ledhead jig . we use these in the spring and have been slamming them all year on them. they are alot smaller than spoons and the fish seem to get them in there mouth better especially when they bight light which has been alot this year

[dueceman35]

as far as the vexilar i have the fl8a genz pack . it runs right at $300 and has done just a great job like i said earlier without it i would have not caught many fish.no problem setting it up at all only 2 dials on it. put it in the water turn it on set your depth range and fish that easy