New Weather Buoy in Western Lake Erie (Monroe/Toledo)

[Rich_B]

everhamme, thanks for the links and information. Very useful indeed.

Rich B.

[everhamme]

Anyone CheckingThe Buoy Before Going Out? Just Curious IF It's Useful

[Rich_B]

I have use it, works good!

[LEfriend]

Great Resource! Ed and the LimnoTech folks do great work. I have worked with them on the algae issues.

One question Ed, is the wave height given equal to the heights on the weather wave forecasts, or does one double it like guys do for the Vermillion buoy?

Wouldn't it be great for NOAA or someone to put another one of these between West Sister and South Bass, say the B can area!!! Wonder what it costs to run one for a year.

[Bggeary]

That thing is great! I look at it every rime before I go out, no surprises. I have to show it the the little woman before she will go out. And yes wouldn't it be nice to have one at B can LEfriend, could you check on that?

[everhamme]

Great Resource! Ed and the LimnoTech folks do great work. I have worked with them on the algae issues.

One question Ed, is the wave height given equal to the heights on the weather wave forecasts, or does one double it like guys do for the Vermillion buoy?

Wouldn't it be great for NOAA or someone to put another one of these between West Sister and South Bass, say the B can area!!! Wonder what it costs to run one for a year.

The "significant" wave height as reported by the buoy represents the average trough to crest height of the highest 1/3 of the waves measured in the last ten minutes. This is the SAME statistic reported by all of the buoys on the Great Lakes. Folks sometimes double the wave height because there are likely waves 2x larger than the significant wave height. The NOAA weather reports are also reporting the estimated significatn wave height, so keep that in mind. NOAA has also begun reporting "...with waves up to XX feet".. this is in response to folks reporting much larger waves than forecasted.

With all that in mind the 45165 buoy IS OVER REPORTING THE WAVE HEIGHT BY 20 to 40%, specifically when the winds are out of the east. This is a mooring issue and I need to add more ballast weight to the buoy. This is the shallowest we've deployed these wave buoys and they need a little tweaking. You can get an up-to-date comparison of the modeled and measured wave height by going here http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/res/glcfs/...5165&year=2013 You can see the black line is higher than the red line. The plot isn't the best as its plotted in meters and days since the first of year.


Cost to cover capital costs, labor to deploy/retrieve, maintain the buoy, and monitor data quality for the season runs about $30k to $50k per year depending on the amount sensors attached to the buoy. We have two deployed in Lake Michigan.

[Bggeary]

Everhamme, I use those links every weekend, but sometimes find the info a little off as i'm out of East Harbor and usually head north and east but it's a great tool i think. Hope you get the funding for next year.

[everhamme]

Thanks for the feedback guys! We applied for the grant and should hear within a week or so.

Ed

[everhamme]

A federal grant opportunity has come up to pay for the weather buoy to come back for two more years. However we need to demonstrate that it is being used by boaters and fishermen. I'd appreciate it if you guys could help spread the word and email me a quick note saying if the buoy is useful for you. Please use a specific example if possible. If anyone is in any fishing or boating groups id be glad to make this request formally to them with a letter or email. Please email me at everhamme at limno.com

Thanks

Ed

[Firetiger]

http://uglos.mtu.edu/station_page.php?station=45165



Ed I use the info everytime I head out on the LAKE !!! The wave height seems to be pretty accurate, like you said there are always a few dbls around here and there but for the most part its pretty accurate.