we fun fished Thursday with charter buddy only got 5. Friday went out with other buddy got 7 4 people crane creek turtle creek 8 ft to 16 ft got them on purple no minnows and got some on black Saturday went out with different buddy got 6 4 guys we tried all different colors and weights. some charters got limits Friday but the average was around 12 - 15 fish 8 guys long days the fish we did catch were very nice 24-27 inches I also noticed the fish had heavy red meat or mud lines I cut a lot of meat away even after we zippered them. Saturday we saw all the boats move out to 17 ft so we ran out there nothing then we saw a pack of boats out farther we ran out there 21 ft of water 1 fish. ran back in shallow off wards 10 ft of water 1 boat there saw him net 2 and leave we got 1 more there. great days on the water but expensive fillets but had new pole felt good to say fish on