hey guys! thanks for all the great responses. i didnt have problems catching fish when i was on them. it was my first year of trolling and seemed to figure it out a bit. the only time i caught lots of fish all year was when they were west of green. someone recommended to read up on the lake. i think ill do that. i dock in east harbor. i know skipper was heading north of vermillion. im curious on how far that is. and maybe it is necessary to go that far. like i said just starting out and learning. love the info tho guys. and very willing to learn! thanks! Logan