well we did the whole "head to where the boats are" thing. I remember when I was younger and we were going out all the time, trolling with spinning gear and erie deeries, hot-n-tots etc yielded us lots of walleye, has it really changed that much that you need all the extra stuff? seems like our stuff just dont work anymore, last year or yesterday. Last year was the first we had been out in 9 years since grandpa passed away, but in 5 trips we never caught a walleye, just a few perch