Well I just got done running 5 trips back to back... Wow.. the coolers of fish we brought back were incredible.. limits every trip... We fished north east of vermillion... I fished away from the pack of boats it did not seem to matter where I fished as long as I was between the 38/28 and the 38/17. Trolled worm harnesses back 45 to 80 feet back on a 40 tru trip. 1.7 mph .