I only have line counter reels on my dipsey rods for salmon. They are always being adjusted for depth and can be anywhere from 35'-235', too hard to keep track of. All my other reels arre Diawa 27's for walleye, and 47's for salmon. Each pass of the line guide (down and back) is 10' on the 27 and 12' on the 47. Actually my buddy and I measured the line on all of our reels, and some of the line counter reels were off as much as 20% at 130'. I have those line counters you are asking about, Rapalas are nice because they are angled for easier reading, and have a light. I haven't used them for a few years, no reason. Good Luck