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03-18-2012, 03:19 PM #51
One thing you could do to remain legal without question would be to have your fish filleted at the fish cleaners and have them hold them in their cooler/Refrigerator until you are ready to leave. It would be a small added expence but maybe worth it for the piece of mind by not having those fillets in your posession and having to explain to the officer when you caught them, if you are checked.
I don't know if it's about taking peoples rights away or not. But it isn't right that people can go out and over bag, go out and get limits 2 or 3 limits or more in one day and then only be ticketed for 5 or 6 fish if they are caught, simply because the other fish cannot be identified that they have in their possession, freezer/Refrigerator/coolers. That is why the law was changed so if you don't like the law maybe we should all blame those unethical people who forced this change on us! It makes no difference if they are residents or nonresidents they are still unethical and both do it.
On the other hand you have people saying that fishermen should not keep females that are full of eggs. My thoughts on that are that if you have legally caught a fish you should do with that fish what you want! If your conscience and convictions says to you release it, then you should by all means release that fish, but if you want to keep that fish and you have caught it in a legal manner then by all means keep it. Please don't let someone elses opinion decide for you what you should do with your legally caught fish, after all, it is only an opinion and not a law.Last edited by wakina; 03-18-2012 at 03:33 PM.
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03-18-2012, 04:01 PM #52
I am from Michigan and was planning on heading down to Oak Harbor this week with 4 other guys but after reading this post I think we will just keep our money here in Michigan and fish the Detroit river. I enjoy fishing the reefs but there is no way I am leaving the scales and skin on my fish for 2 or 3 days. I guess I am too picky as to how my fish is taken care, but this is unacceptable. Any fishing in Ohio waters from now on will be with the boat launched in Michigan waters where we can properly clean and package our fish when we return to shore.
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03-18-2012, 06:45 PM #53
Greed
As I sit here and read these posts, I can see two different views of this whole situation. The first thing is the need for some people to be greedy and over limit time after time (and more than likely these individuals are repeat offenders). Unfortunatley, it is these few people who have brought the ODNR to enforce these limitations for the future of the lakes and our children. On the other hand, the whole country is broke and in crisis. Therefore, so is the Fish Commission and ODNR. This then results in everyone having to be checked at the dock, and pay petty fines to keep bringing in funds for ODNR and the Fish Commission. Why is it that the law abiding citizens ALWAYS have to pay for the ignorance and greed of others.
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03-19-2012, 08:41 AM #54
Ok, so let me get this straight, I want to make sure I'm 100% clear understanding this.
I can limit out, drive home, fillet my fish (and when I fillet them, I also skin them). No problem.
However, say I camp at East Harbor or Kelley's for a week. Fish every day. Typically at the end of every day, I'd fillet the day's catch. And again, when I fillet, I also skin them.
With the new regs, I have to leave the skins on them until I get home? So then I'd have a week's work of fillets to skin?
If I'm understanding correctly, I don't understand how in the hell that helps them determine that I only took my bag limit. SO I have my limit of 30 YP, aka 60 fillets. What does it matter whether I have 60 fillets with skins on, or 60 fillets without skins? 60 fillets is 60 fillets is it not??
It is jsut another source of revenue, and not the solution to the problem of people taking more than their TAC. As everyone said, put ODNR at the ramps and check guys coming in. That would be the most effective way.Last edited by freddie; 03-19-2012 at 08:43 AM.
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03-19-2012, 09:02 AM #55
The part that makes the difference in mainly with the walleye. Most guys fillet the fish, skin them, and then chunk up into smaller pieces before bagging. In that case the ODNR has no way of accurately counting fillets.
I'm not agreeing with it either. It's a real paim in the rear for those of us who camp for 3 to 5 days at a time and then have to come home and finish the cleaning process.
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03-19-2012, 09:07 AM #56
I agree with Freddie. It seems like the only fishermen it hurts are the legal ones that follow the law. This does nothing to the so-called fisherman that take as many eyes as they can illegally. Stupid uneeded laws again.
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03-19-2012, 09:16 AM #57
Its just like gun control. They do nothing to actually stop the problem, they just make it tougher for us good guys to be law abiding, and to entrap us. These laws do nothing to actually curb the problem.
I understand chunking up fillets creating a problem in making accurate counts. If that's the case, just require whole fillets and not chunks. I know I don't chunk up fillets until we're ready to cook them.
The whole skin thing really peeves me.
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03-19-2012, 09:20 AM #58
odnr
We got delayed for about 20 minutes sat. morning at turtle creek. game warden had to run all of our drivers licenses. not sure for what but when he came back to the vehicle he started giving my buddy a bunch of crap. Kept asking if he had anything illegal on him and started checking around inside my jeep. we werent doing anything wrong. just trying to go fishn. they did the same thing to me last deer season at kokosing wildlife area. it was the third day of gun season and after checking my tags and gun he then made me take him to my vehicle. he was all suspicious cuz i told him i hadnt gotten a deer yet. so he looked all over my jeep for blood i guess and then looked all dissapointed when he found nothing. game wardens are out to write tickets...period.
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03-19-2012, 10:13 AM #59
Chillin, thats sad. If they would put the effort in harrasing the folks that need it instead of wasting time on people that dont we all would be better off.
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03-19-2012, 10:15 AM #60
I'm totally into saftey checks and license checks but after that if all is cool just leave me be. I'm not breaking any laws!!!
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