went west of island 28 ft of water 2 guys 60 perch 23 pounds we sorted for an hour and kept 9 inches and bigger then at 10.00 they slowed down and i was wishing we kept some of the smaller ones had 52 fish at 10 and had threw back 100 smaller then 9 inches took us and hour to get the last 8 biggest 12 inches spreaders and shinners must be on bottom