thanks skipper9, you sure know how to slay 'em
appreciate all your knowledgeable posts and wish i lived on the lake , but unfortunately i have to make my living in cbus
if i may, what were your #'s?
i will be up in sept. and oct and run out of huron, may ask for some advice from you then or may just book with you for a trip or two

again, thanks for the info and you are a real gent for sharing......stubby....LADY BII