seems like the only thing that has been working for me is the single hook thing with split shot..no bling..have been even just taken the head off and throwing it in the water,something like chuming..but they have been right on the bottom. i even have a thin rope with a hunk of rebar on it banging on the bottom..perch seem to come and look it to see what is going on..then they find the minnow or the heads that are there