Reeltime, If you want to borrow them to test and copy let me know. I can make you a set at my cost with the weights on them for around $150 or you can make them yourself It doesn't matter to me. Each board weighs 17 pounds. these are the boards that all the most of the major charters run they have been. They have a rudder on them that prevents them from ever flipping to the other side of the boat. They pull so hard you can run 8 50 jets with out u-ing. But they are a challange to get back in at the end of the day but worth the extra effort. Kevin "fish tales" could you post a picture of them I cant post pic off my phone