Thanks for the info, I had one other guy tell me to use jerk baits, ( Husky Jerk, Suspend. Rougues, orTail Dancers) Ive got an idea now and me and another brave soul are gonna try it next week I think. Long haul from Cincinnati but we are laid off and have a buddy that will loan us his trailer up there. Thanks again and have a good holidays ! Keep ur powder dry and ur line tight!