I have been on Erie icing since 1995. With the same (now retired guide) for over 20 yrs. I learn so much about ice on Erie. Juls was right , going off the main land is very iffy even with the lake frozen. went off 3 times since I started in 1994. I would fly go over to PIB , found a " Good "guide' since I lost my old one, like everything some aren't very good. I could list why but not right now. ( especially when you had the best) lately housing is getting limit and only one place to eat.,the lat 3 yrs. Bring your wallet. if off main land bring your will. FYI: you can fine air boats off the main land but you will be bucket fishing