Rickerd, 1978 was the first year I had my captains license and have fished many times aboard the Erie Dearie with Danny also was on the last trip he made the day he passed away. The biggest switch to trolling came when the numbers crashed due to the mussels. To due well casting you had to be in pretty good physical shape making 100s of casts some days with your back and shoulders starting to ache buy boy it was fun!