to the OP of this thread...if your new to dipseys it may take awhile to get them to work...just keep messing with them, moving them up or down a few feet at a time till they start catching...the chart on the back of them is not accurate but it's in the ballpark...most times dipseys are run deep. not to say they won't work up higher...a good idea is to write down how far back is working at a certain depth...example 38 ft. back in 20 fow...it's easy to forget when working different depths...also if trying to get a #1 and 3 to work the same depth you only need around 12 ft. difference in distance...example 60-48...also make sure the reels are calibrated... most times in the summer dipseys with spoons will catch more fish than cranks on boards...disclaimer...dipseys work 99% of the time but some days the fish will shy away from them.