Got on the water at 3pm on 8/3 with a rookie crew. Tried 30 FOW by green, some marks but only a sheap head. Moved to just West of rattle 35' and started picking right away. Had 1 ticket of 7-9s with a few 10-11s in just over an hour, but had to run in to avoid the storm that rolled through at 6pm. Used goldies and frozen shiners from Rickards. Both worked equally well. 1 short eye for my 8 yr old nephew too.