Fished 11/4 casting on gull in 12-30fow with 3 people.Caught 5 fish from 16-18".Caught 10/26lb the same area the week before.As the water cooled the fish got smaller and less plentiful.Decided to troll on 11/6.Tried gull initially with one pull back, and could see a few boats trolling out by Kellies Island Schoal.Decided to head north since had Canadian liscences and wanted to be by ourselves.Caught 5 trolling on Chickinole reef in 12-18 fow.Was using Bandits with 30-45 leads.Fish 18-24".Best lure was firetiger at 32 lead.Wish we would have gave the deeper water a try after reading how well Hawg Hunter did in that water,but did enjoy that super calm day.Also caught a 4lb bass and a 10lb farm animal.