thanks so much for the info, everyone is so helpful and friendly. I wish a few more of you could be out here in South Dakota , most things are so hush hush. But at Port Clinton area people are more than willing to share. We look forward to the weeks worth of fishing at Port Clinton! I wish I could come out more often, the 14 hour drive gets a little long but the fishing is outstanding and people great! thanks again skipper, you guys are so professional and courteous . Kevin