Went out yesterday evening with the old man, a little slow but managed a couple. about 20' down in upper 30's out past the windmills, 2 eyes landed (17/27.5"), lost another, 8 silvers. Eyes on perch color sticks, silvers equal on sticks and harnesses. Heard at the dock some better concentrations of fish close to the walls? I personally have not had luck there, but this is only my second year.