Ok thanks for the advice. I haven't put a rigger or a dipsy down yet. Been trying to hook up on the lighter gear with in line weights, husky jerks, small jets and stuff. This is my second year out of my current boat and it's rigged with a kicker and a troll master so i might be crawling too slowly just because I can. It could be time to start moving a bit quicker and covering more water. I used to only be able to get as slow as 2.4 SOG and always caught fish, and now I can basically go as slow as I want but I might be in dead water too long. Thanks again, I'll change up some gear for the next trip.