Yeah joe calcium helps bur when its this cold freezes up like an sob on chutes, even though coming out if the truck over 70* . The last month or so i have been playing block mason and demolition man lol. Although we did put 150 yds in a fuel tank in n tonawanda on the 11th it was a good workout for mid winter. I know sbh has 5" good ice but dink perch. Silver just set up good yesterday but fish didn't cooperate i am waiting for a little warm up to get out kinda hard to motivate yourself to go play in these temps when you work in them all day. I may get out Sunday but not sure trying to find iut how oneida is right now.